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Paper 5 -   7 June 2002 Meeting

Minutes of the Association meeting held at Winchester Guildhall on 22 March 2002 at 10.00 am.


Basingstoke and Deane

Dorcas Bunton

East Hampshire

Councillor Mrs E Cartwright
Mr P Burton (Chief Executive)


Mr A Milner (Local Area Co-ordinator)


Councillor R Price
Councillor S Woodward
Mr A Davies (Chief Executive)


Mr M Crocker (Chief Executive)


Councillor Mrs F Hindson
Councillor K Thornber
Councillor A Rice
Councillor M Roberts
Councillor W Wheeler
Councillor M Woodhall
Mr P Robertson (Chief Executive)
Mr J Clifton (Deputy Director of Social Services)
Mr J Rees-Evans (Head of Economic Development)


Councillor D Simpson
Mr C James (Acting Chief Executive)


Councillor D Gillett (Chairman)
Mr F Campbell (Acting Head of Paid Service)

Isle of Wight

Councillor Mrs B Lawson

New Forest

Councillor Mrs M Holding
Mr D Yates (Chief Executive)


Councillor R Pettigrew
Mr B Partridge


Mr A Lloyd (Chief Executive)

Test Valley

Councillor A Jackson (Vice-Chairman)
Councillor B Palmer
Mr A Jones (Chief Executive and Honorary Secretary of the Association)


Councillor R Sabine
Mr D Cowan (Chief Executive)

Hampshire Association of Parish and Town Councils

Councillor Mrs J Pittfield

Isle of Wight Association of Parish and Town Councils

Councillor Mrs B Lawson

Eastleigh Community Services

Mr K Dufton

Association of Hampshire and Isle of Wight Local Authorities

Mr N Goulder (Policy Manager)
Mrs D Allen (PA to Policy Manager)

Also in attendance:

Hampshire Constabulary

Sergeant S Horne

Hampshire Economic Partnership

Mr A Stevens

Hampshire and Isle of Wight Strategic Health Authority

Mr A Osborne
Mr L Judd

Local Government Association

Councillor Mrs M Robinson

South East England Development Agency

Mr P Lovejoy


The Mayor of Winchester, Councillor Therese Evans, welcomed all present to the meeting.


Apologies for absence were received from Councillors R Donnelly and B Gurden (Basingstoke and Deane); Councillor S James (East Hampshire); Councillors K House and Mrs M Kyrle (Eastleigh); Councillors P Edgar and M Hook (Gosport); Councillor K Thornber (Hampshire); Councillor K Moss (Havant); Councillors H Rees and Mrs S Smart (Isle of Wight); Councillors T Blair and P Shaddock (Portsmouth); Councillors J Marsh and P Moyle (Rushmoor) and Mr C Byrne (GOSE).


The Chairman signed the minutes of the meeting held on 25 January 2002 as a correct record.

Arising from the minutes:

(a) under item 4.02 ("Strong Local Leadership - Quality Public Services" - the Local Government White Paper) the Chairman reported that the issue of Comprehensive Performance Assessment would be considered initially by the Chief Executives’ Group but it would be a key area for the Association in the forthcoming year. Havant, East Hampshire and Chichester were developing peer review techniques in preparation;

(b) under item 7.02 (Appointments to Outside Bodies) the Policy Manager reported that the Association’s two nominations to the South East Rural Affairs Forum had not been successful.


The Chairman introduced Dave Yates (Chief Executive of New Forest District Council). Mr Yates set the scene for this item and introduced John Clifton (Deputy Director of Social Services, Hampshire County Council) and Les Judd (Corporate Director, Hampshire and Isle of Wight Strategic Health Authority) who joined him as a panel to assist the consideration of how the local authorities might work with each other and with the NHS on options for managing overview and scrutiny.

Mr Clifton gave a presentation on overview and scrutiny which focussed on:

ˇ Enabling a partnership approach
Supporting thematic reviews
Avoiding duplication

He suggested that the four Social Services authorities might agree - possibly with the help of the Association - a rolling programme of scrutiny reviews. He reported that the Strategic Health Authority in conjunction with the Social Services authorities would be holding a seminar which would be open to the District Councils to attend.

Mr Judd stressed the importance of maintaining and developing partnerships in Hampshire and the Isle of Wight. He also felt that adequate resources were essential for scrutiny to add value. He stressed the importance of involving the Strategic Health Authority in decisions on any programme of scrutiny reviews.

The panel addressed concerns and answered questions from those present. In particular the disbandment of Community Health Councils and what would replace them was a matter of concern and had been addressed at the Association’s meeting last November. The importance of thematic reviews and ensuring their recommendations were put in place was also stressed, as was the importance of local authority Members attending Primary Care Trust (PCT) meetings.

In considering the comments on the consultation paper the following addition was made to the list in paragraph 16 of the report circulated:

"provision should be made for local authority scrutiny arrangements to be able to monitor the extent that their recommendations had been implemented".

In addition it was thought that consideration should be given to the writing off of NHS debt.

The Chairman thanked the panel for their contributions and regretted there was not time for a presentation on the repositioning of the health service in Hampshire and the Isle of Wight. (Details are given on the web site which is linked to the Association’s own web site).


That the Association comments on the Department of Health consultation document reflecting the points in paragraph16 of the report and above.


The Chairman introduced Andrew Lloyd (Chief Executive of Rushmoor Borough Council) who explained the background to the Regional Economic Strategy (RES) and the fact that the South East England Development Agency (SEEDA) was in the process of revising the RES. He introduced Paul Lovejoy of SEEDA who gave a presentation the process of preparing and publishing the draft Strategy. This had started on 6 February with a Hampshire and Isle of Wight consultation event.

Mr Lloyd then introduced Alan Stevens (Executive Director of the Hampshire Economic Partnership). Mr Stevens focussed on the preliminary ideas and proposals to be included in Hampshire’s response to the preliminary consultation from SEEDA.

The report circulated for this meeting also listed the Isle of Wight’s priorities for the review of the RES.

A number of key issues were highlighted in discussion e.g. the need for affordable housing and the development of broadband communications. It was reported that a "Broadband Breakfast" event was to be held in Winchester on 10 April.

The panel of three speakers on this item answered questions and noted comments from those present including recognition from SEEDA of the diversity of Hampshire and its role as a region for the purposes of the Assembly of European Regions.

It was suggested that the Association should take note of the audit of voluntary sector work currently being carried out by Community Action Hampshire.

Mr Lovejoy agreed to take back specific comments from this meeting to SEEDA for consideration and possible inclusion in the RES.

The Chairman thanked the panel for their input.


Consideration was given to a report by the Chief Executive of Rushmoor Borough Council in conjunction with the County and District Councils.

The report gave details of the Hampshire Fare Pass Scheme, the options contained within it and the costs of providing the scheme. The report also set out the arrangements made by Unitary Councils who were not part of the Farepass Scheme.

The report also gave details of the District Councils’ position.


That the report be noted.


The Annual meeting of the Association would be held on Friday 7 June at 10.30 am at New Forest District Council, Appletree Court, Lyndhurst. This meeting would be preceded by group meetings at 9.30 am.

Last update: 23/05/2002
Author: Nick Goulder, Policy Manager

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